Deliverance - Patreon Version
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It's a tough watch, but a great film. I have another one from back then you should watch. The Deer Hunter 1978
puppers
2025-02-04 22:31:24 +0000 UTCI type my responses on my phone, but I edit them like 10 times because I don't like how it reads. π€£
Michael@GetFitwithDogs
2025-01-27 00:05:04 +0000 UTCEddie, trust me, if it wasn't for voice to text, most of my posts would not be more than three words long...
Troy Hickman
2025-01-26 20:33:42 +0000 UTCI haven't been drunk for years, and it's mainly because I can't deal with the hangovers. I'd rather miss the inebriation feeling then have to deal with the sickness. Plus, I don't need one more thing to make me goofy... π
Troy Hickman
2025-01-26 20:32:19 +0000 UTCTroy, like you and Mike, I always have a lot to say, but I'm too damn lazy to type it all out π but I do love reading your all's comments.
Eddie Perkins
2025-01-26 13:55:28 +0000 UTCWe started going to watch a band, but the venue was so packed we went next door to a Mexican restaurant and had large margaritas and food. Then we went to a second location we knew would have a band to have a couple beers and "drunk people watch". Which is always fun. π€£ It's always entertaining to watch what drunk people do, lol! But after a couple (large) Guinness we asked for our check. The band was so loud the waitress thought I asked for another Guinness and brought it to me. Not one to let something go to waste... πΊ Ugh, slight hangover right now. π€’ I still have to get the dogs out to do something today... As for what happened when we got home... not telling. π«‘
Michael@GetFitwithDogs
2025-01-26 13:48:08 +0000 UTCGuinness? Are you saying your love making is going to set a world record? π
Troy Hickman
2025-01-26 05:47:18 +0000 UTCWe are back from date night, and after a few margaritas and some Guinness, the fun has just begun! LOL! π It's not that Dasha hasn't had to deal with people like those in Deliverance, it's that her reaction implied a level of concern that she shouldn't have about various situations that arose in the movie. True monsters like those in the movie do exist, and I fully am on board with doing what you can to protect yourself from those monsters. I just got the impression that her concern about such things was well above the level it should be. I always look at situations like this from the perspective of being a father advising a daughter. I would absolutely advise erring on the side of caution. So everything Dasha said that she does - lock 5 locks, close the windows, etc - I 100% agree. Hell, me being me, I'd advise her to get an Akita. That's my dog breed, and they're DEMONS to anyone who would harm you but are ANGELS to you, personally. But... the impression I got was that Dasha had a level of concern about bad things that probably are exaggerated. I would NEVER criticize her over this. She had a stalker situation recently and she's in a foreign land without male protector. Damn it, I still don't feel like I'm explaining my perspective correctly. Maybe it's because I've had a few beers while on date night. I'll give up for now. I'm not doing a good job explaining myself. Just know I am in no way offering criticism. I am a patron here because I feel Dasha is a person worth supporting . I get nothing out of supporting her at all, other than feeling like I am helping a good person a little bit.
Michael@GetFitwithDogs
2025-01-26 04:05:46 +0000 UTCI think I understand what you might mean, michael. Are you maybe just saying that Dasha has not necessarily had to deal with the same kind of scary people depicted in Deliverance? I could see that being the case (although I can guarantee you there are similar monsters in both Russia and Canada). You and Katy have fun on your date. Let us know if you got to kiss her.. π
Troy Hickman
2025-01-26 02:39:44 +0000 UTCI don't mean to imply that she isn't mature. That wasn't what I was trying to say. I just got the impression from that reaction that she seemed... sheltered? No, I'm not sure that's the word I'm looking for either. That has a negative taste to it, and I'm not trying to suggest anything negative. I can't find the right words at this time. I'll think on it later, I'm taking Katy out on a date night and we are walking out the door. Cya!
Michael@GetFitwithDogs
2025-01-26 00:49:49 +0000 UTCEddie, are we feeding off of Dasha's emotions? Good gosh, man, we are all just a bunch of parasites! π
Troy Hickman
2025-01-25 23:24:30 +0000 UTCMichael, whenever you start out a post by saying you don't have a lot to say, I know you are about to write a novella! But that's cool, man, becauseI always enjoy what you write. Here in Indiana, the most dangerous thing is.. my family, quite frankly hah. Growing up, my family's name was used in kind of a boogeyman way. For example, on more than one occasion, I had strangers try to threaten me by claiming they were members of my family when obviously I knew they weren't. Man, that's an awkward situation. The second greatest danger in indiana? I don't know, maybe getting trapped in a corn silo...π Like you, I am not afraid of this particular kind of assault such as is in the movie, and for some of the same reasons that you are not. But that's not to say that it isn't and shouldn't be a fear for men, as when you look into the statistics, it happens to men an awful lot of the time as well. And I have known some of the toughest men that you have ever seen who have gone to prison and had to deal with this, especially given the law of being outnumbered. As I said, most of my uncles have done a lot of prison time, and as far as I know none of them have had this happen to them personally, but then see my comments above. They tend to do pretty well in prison. Also, keep in mind that overall, the great majority of violent crimes in general are perpetrated against man. I tend to breathe easier in rural areas as well. But I have spent a lot of time in large cities. I believe Dasha is more toward the east in Canada, but I've spent accumulative 2 years or so in Vancouver, and I find that parts of Canada can be just as dangerous as the larger cities in the U.S.. My experience with the interior of Canada, the mountains and prairies and such, is that they feel much safer, I find it i kind of like being here in Indiana (not that Indiana is always safe; for many many years, Gary Indiana has been in a three-way battle with Detroit and Washington DC for murder capital of the country). I found your comment interesting about it making Dasha seem young. I have always been impressed with how relatively with -it and mature she is for her age. Because of my college gig, I've dealt with thousands of people in her age range, and she seems very mature to me in comparison to so many of them. But maybe I'm not a good judge of these things. Sometimes I feel like I stopped maturing when I was about 12 years old...π
Troy Hickman
2025-01-25 23:20:45 +0000 UTCI don't have a lot to say about the movie. This might have been the first time I have watched it, so it was an experience for me as well. I do have one thing to say: It was probably a different experience for me than it was for Dasha. I didnt find it scary, because I've never feared this type of situation. Not just because I'm a man, but because I'm a wrestler and I've also trained in Gracie Jiu-Jitsu at Rodrigo Vaghi's Academy. I've trained with Mike Rogers and UFC veteran Steve Berger, among others. I'm not claiming to be on that level, but let's just say that I am more than capable at fending for myself in a combat situation. I don't bring that up for clout. I have never mentioned this on here before. I do so now only to illustrate that this scene didn't impact me in the way that it did Dasha. Obviously, if someone has a gun on me it changes the situation, but the odds of that happening are so small that it just doesn't take hold in my worries. Particularly since I avoid places that are elevated in risk for gun crime. This leads me to another thing. Dasha mentioned she's a city girl and not a country girl. I'm the opposite. I dont mind visiting the city to go for a night out, but I would never ever live there. Maybe where she lives is a safer city, but not mine. I live by Saint Louis, and it's not the best of places. I live about 35 minutes away from the city in suburbia, where its very safe and yet still in civilization to where everything I need is nearby. Personally, I'd live out in the country if Katy would, but she is not a country girl. She's not a city girl like Dasha, but not a country lover like me. She's more in the middle. To me, it seems very out of place to fear the country and not fear the city. Again, this could be because Dasha is from a safe city and the city near me is not that safe. The country out here is incredibly safe. People tend to be the greatest danger, and in rural areas there are less people, whereas the city is loaded with people. Granted, our rural areas in Missouri have almost no animals to fear. Snakes would be the biggest thing, but even the dangerous snakes are rare and easy to avoid. Only 5 venomous species of snake around here, 3 of which are rattlesnakes and one is the cottonmouth that is only found near rivers. Very easy to spot, identify, and avoid. Only the copperhead is hard to spot given its camouflage, but they're also the least dangerous. Anyways... this may come off as negative, but I really don't mean it to be negative. I left this reaction really feeling like Dasha is... young. I mean, I mean younger than she actually is. Young in experience and young at heart. I don't mean that in a bad way, but that's just how I felt during her reaction. I'm amazed that the girl I saw react to this movie in the way that she did also flew to Canada from her homeland as a teenager, without her parents, to live and go to school. She may be a bit overly fearful, but that just tells me that she's also brave.
Michael@GetFitwithDogs
2025-01-25 22:24:19 +0000 UTCActually, I can think of one scene in To Kill a mockingbird that might upset Dasha, but I will not give it away here. Hey, if you guys want to use me to absolve you of all your sins go right ahead; I have the beard and long hair for it...π
Troy Hickman
2025-01-25 18:51:53 +0000 UTCThat's right, I was the one who asked for this, but I think we should all blame Troy π so, with that being said, now we can move on to the movie To Kill a Mockingbird, where we can also blame Troy if it upsets you, but it shouldn't. lol
Eddie Perkins
2025-01-25 18:37:44 +0000 UTCI just watched your reaction, Dasha, and I understand that it upset you, but that is what it's supposed to do. Unlike The Descent, this is a different kind of horror. It's more disturbing because we all know it could happen, and things like this do. I did not mean for it to upset you that much, but that is one of the reasons we watch your reactions; you are honest and sincere, and you feed off your emotions, which makes for a good reaction.
Eddie Perkins
2025-01-25 18:20:38 +0000 UTCDasha put it on your list to review "Hell or High Water" sometime sooner the better. One of my Top Ten and one you will really enjoy!! Chris Pine and Jeff Bridges shine in this one
Joseph Powell
2025-01-25 16:17:00 +0000 UTCYeah i guess that's what i was getting at. Its sort of patronising to her intelligence as a movie reactor. This movie undoubtedly sparks some discussion but people need to leave personal insults direclty or indirectly out of it in my opinion. Dasha isn't mad at anybody here for requesting it, not sure why others should be mad for her.
JokesterHollywood
2025-01-25 15:42:02 +0000 UTCWell, it's understandable. We all love Dasha, and so if we see her in any way upset, it hits us the same way it would if it happened to members of our family. She has a whole audience of big brothers trying to look out for her, I think. And that's a beautiful thing because everyone's heart is in the right place, but it also becomes kind of condescending to her if we don't realize that she is a smart, resilient young woman who can handle herself. If you happen to be reading this stuff, Dasha, I would appreciate your thoughts on the matter.
Troy Hickman
2025-01-25 15:33:32 +0000 UTCI agree with this. Some people feel the need to gatekeep Dasha enjoyment of movies and then insult people who have requests them. I just find it strange behavior. I'm glad she watched it too. This movie is not meant to be an easy watch by any stretch. While I myself wouldn't of requested this movie. I'm not going to insult anybody or question your motivations like some people here are doing. That's my take. People are projecting how they felt about the movie and questioning patrons why they would requesr such a movie like its somehow an insult to humanity.
JokesterHollywood
2025-01-25 15:24:05 +0000 UTCOkay, lots to say so let's get going. First, as I sometimes do, I have to admit I have a personal connection to this movie. Keep in mind that the novel Deliverance was written by James Dickey, who was United States poet laureate under Jimmy Carter. He was also in the movie we just watched, playing the sheriff that tells the main characters not to ever come back here again (and he did a great job in that role). Now, I used to be the fiction editor for a literary magazine called the Sycamore Review, out of Purdue University. Part of my job was soliciting stories from famous authors (and getting them to do it for free, which wasn't easy). This led to me meeting James Dickey in the later years of his life and getting to know him somewhat. He was an immensely fascinating guy. He was a real man's man, not a pretentious guy at all, but he also had the soul of a great poet. In some ways he was the kind of guy I would like myself to be, although I'm sure I fail miserably in every aspect. Anyway, that's my Deliverance story. Secondly, Dasha, I am one of the folks who wanted you to react to this movie, so if it had an overall negative effect on you, please accept my very sincere apologies. We have to remember, though, that much as you said, this is really a horror movie. In its own way it's every bit as much a horror movie as, say, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, or The Descent, which you also mentioned. This movie tells us that while nature can be so beautiful, it can also be absolutely brutal. In a similar manner, human nature, which we all know can be such a beautiful thing, can also be twisted and brutal. As much as that awful rape scene affects us today, can you imagine how it hit audiences in 1972? Probably much the same way that The Exorcist did one year later. It's not an easy movie to watch, and it's definitely not meant to be. On a happier note, you mentioned watching peaceful YouTube videos about nature. Every night when I go to sleep, because I have trouble sleeping through the night, I put on YouTube thunderstorm videos and they help me sleep. My personal favorites are one where we are seeing the thunderstorm from inside of a cozy shelter, like a covered porch or something. I love the sounds and sights of the thunder and lightning and rain, but I also like feeling safe and secure with something overhead. Maybe it's much like the Deliverance movie, maybe it says something about how as people we want to be part of nature but we also kind of cling to our securities. I won't get too deep into this right now, as I need to save something for the almost inevitable discussion we will be having (I know you're out there, Michael and Mr B lol). Thanks, Dash, for watching this with us. I know it wasn't easy, and I always appreciate it so much when you endure the difficult ones for us, just as much as I feel a real sense of joy in my chest when you see something wonderful on the screen and your face lights up. You are a great person to be human with..β₯οΈ
Troy Hickman
2025-01-25 15:17:43 +0000 UTC
